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R. Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel: “Even if a Jew is the hired hand of a resident gentile (and the Jew does not live in the courtyard) he can contribute towards the eruv and this suffices.” R. Nachman said: “How great is this teaching.” R. Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel: “Someone who drinks a revi’it of wine cannot give halachic rulings.” R. Nachman said: This is not a great teaching since my mind thinks clearly only after drinking a revi’it of wine.” Rav said to him: “Why did the master speak this way? Did not R. Acha bar Chanina say: “’He that keeps company with prostitutes loses his wealth’ (Mishlei 29:3). Whoever says this teaching is pleasant and that one is not loses the wealth of Torah.” He said to him: “I retract my statement.” (Eruvin 64a)

R. Acha’s play on words gets lost in translation. He breaks up the Hebrew word “zonot” into the two words, “zo na’eh.” Thus, a verse about the destructiveness of prostitution suddenly refers to ranking rabbinic statements. How opposed to ranking are we?

Maharsha extends the scope of the opposition, contending that it applies to both negative and positive evaluations of rabbinic teachings. He argues that praising one statement often implies criticism of another. Therefore, we study without comparatively evaluating the worth of different rabbinic ideas. His position coheres with the play on words that objects to saying “zo na’eh.”

Yet taking this to an extreme appears difficult. Can students of Torah not express their love for certain works, particular passages, or specific ideas? Taking that option away removes an important vehicle for conveying attachment to Torah. Furthermore, can a scholar never articulate disagreement with some vehemence? Certainly, most arguments should simply focus on the issues involved but the occasional negative exclamation seems reasonable.

R. Shmuel Strashun notes that Chazal themselves engaged in such evaluations. For example, Rami bar Chama (Shavuot 45b) praises a particular teaching and no one objects to his formulation. Rashash concludes that, contra Maharsha, the problem exists only with regard to negative evaluations. This theory indicates a preference for positive discourse and opens up the possibility of talking about those parts of Torah we feel most strongly about.

Talmudic evidence motivates a further qualification. When Ulla says (Ta’anit 3b) that one of R. Chisda’s explanations is like “smoke to the eyes and vinegar to the teeth,” no one indicates displeasure with Ulla’s remark. Apparently, even negative evaluations have their place. Rashash suggests that a scholar can talk this way but only in the context of a rabbinic argument. Perhaps we can explain his point as follow. Critical language can be a natural part of argumentation; outside that context, it reflects a lack of respect or an excessive desire to criticize.

R. Yoshiyahu Pinto comes to an opposing conclusion. He argues that R. Nachman does not retract his opposing position, he only regrets his language. Scholars have every right to contest each other’s positions but they must do so respectfully. R. Pinto calls for a discourse of argument that focuses exclusively on the issues.

Varying positions indicate the delicate balance of these issues. On the one hand, we need to show respect to the totality of Torah. On the other hand, expressing our love for particular parts of Torah, and perhaps even our difficulty with other aspects, should also have a place.

[I have enjoyed writing both aggada blogs and medieval Jewish philosophy blogs this past year and I thank WebYeshiva for the forum and readers for stimulating comments. Next week, I will shift to the new academic year’s topics and focus on Avot and Ramban’s commentary on the Torah.]

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Last Updated on Thursday, 27 August 2009 11:54

Rav said: “Whoever says shalom to another before praying is like someone who builds a private altar as it says: ‘Cease you from man whose breath is in his nostrils, for what is he to be accounted’ (Yeshayahu 2: 22). Do not read it as bameh (for what) but as bamah (a private altar).” Shmuel said: “For what do you grant significance to this fellow and not to God.” R. Sheshet asked a question: “In between the chapters of shema, a person can ask out of respect and respond (apparently, one can inquire of another’s welfare before praying the amida)?” R. Abba explained: “The prohibition only applies when one goes early to another’s door.”

The paragraph above includes both halachic and aggadic elements; our analysis relates to both. Meiri argues that greeting another person before communicating with God conveys that you grant divinity to the other fellow. Even if we do not accept his strong formulation, we can understand that the problem stems from giving another person precedence before God. Shmuel’s statement confirms this analysis.

If this explains the problem, beginning the day with any prayer to God, even if not the amida, may remove the prohibition because that sequence still gives God precedence. On the other hand, the Talmud’s example of someone in the middle of shema suggest that the prohibition remains in place after one has already progressed in the prayer service but has still not arrived at the amida. Meiri posits that, after a prayer but before the amida, the prohibition continues on a much less severe level (see also Magen Avraham Orach Chaim 89:7).

Let us move to the aggadic plane. Shmuel reads the verse at face value as implying humanity’s lesser status. Using a play on words, Rav introduces the comparison to a private altar. Why add this comparison? In Ein Aya, R. Kook offers an important explanation. R. Kook points out that the pursuit of peace comes from one of two sources – a shared vision of divinity with a concomitant recognition of godly ideals or a social contract made up by individuals who recognize that shared ventures enable the participants to more successfully achieve their desires. When tried by the test of time, only the former model proves enduring. Since individuals only join the second kind of group to realize their own desires, a conflict of interest will inevitably cause the dissolution of the group. Former partners turn into bitter enemies.

Take note that R. Kook interprets the giving of shalom in our gemara as not just a polite good morning but as representing the value of peace. Praying before giving shalom emphasizes that the ideal quest for peace is rooted in religious ideals and not just in the recognition that “man is a political animal.” The message of the gemara moves from the need to give precedence to God to a framework for achieving universal harmony.

R. Kook does not address another possibility. In drawing a contrast between a unity based on religious ideals and a unity based on shared pursuit of comfort, he does not discuss a peace emerging out of secular ethical ideals. Applying other statements of R. Kook to this context leads to a complex and nuanced position. On the one hand, he criticizes an ethic divorced from a notion of God. On the other hand, he views any quest for morality and justice as truly rooted in divinity, even if its practitioners are not aware of this. Thus, R. Kook may view a humanitarian search for harmony as falling on the correct side of this divide.

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Last Updated on Sunday, 23 August 2009 12:05

R. Chisda said: “Anyone who disagrees with his rebbe is like someone who disagrees with the divine presence as it says: ‘when they strove against the Lord’ (Bamidbar 26:9).” (Sanhedrin 109a)

Korach’s rebellious band directed its attack of Moshe and Aharon; yet the biblical verse depicts them as striving against God. R. Chisda derives that starting up with your teacher equals quarreling with God. Looking at R. Chisda’s statement in isolation, we might conclude that Judaism demands absolute submission to teachers. Perhaps the student’s role is only to take notes and memorize or even to ask questions but never to challenge.

Throughout the last fifteen hundred years of commentary, rabbinic authorities rejected such an interpretation. Many of them point out that this understanding flies in the face of our tradition. R. Yehuda haNassi argues with his father and teacher R. Shimon ben Gamliel. Rava contests the positions of his master Rabba. The same pattern continues throughout the period of the rishonim (see Terumat haDeshen pesakim 238 and Be’er Sheva on Sanhedrin for examples).

If so, what does R. Chisda teach? Rambam explains (Hilchot Talmud Torah 5:2) that a student should not set up a yeshiva without his teacher’s permission. Apparently, respect calls for receiving the teacher’s approval before a student embarks on a public teaching career. It does not call for stifling arguments against that teacher’s halachic positions. The quest for halakhic truth demands the airing of all reasonable claims and positions.

What place does respecting a rebbe have within this quest? A fascinating responsum of R. Moshe Feinstein (Iggrot Moshe Yoreh Deah 3:88) helps elucidate this issue. A scholar asked R.Moshe if he could move to Bnei Brak even though he would occasionally rule against the positions of the Chazon Ish. R. Moshe could not see any cause for concern. He writes that it never occurred to the Chazon Ish that future scholars would feel barred from arguing with him. Furthermore, any scholar who carefully investigate the words of an earlier authority shows respect for that authority, even when the later scholar ultimately rejects the position.

R. Moshe mentions two expression of respect. One should not speak of the earlier scholar in a derogatory fashion. A writer can disagree with an earlier position with a tone of dismissive arrogance or with genuine reverence. The great figures of our tradition certainly merit the latter treatment.

The second expression of respect emerges from Rava’s advice to his students regarding how to proceed after his death (Bava Batra 130b). Rava instructs them not to blindly follow his rulings if they have decent arguments for an alternative position. At the same time, he tells them not to tear up his rulings. Perhaps he would have successfully answered their objections had he been alive. Perhaps the students themselves will eventually realize the cogency of their teacher’s position.

The words of towering figures deserve our utmost esteem. This means avoiding any easy rejections of their ideas and thinking seriously about how to justify their positions. Yet it does not mean an inability to disagree. When disagreements come from a place of knowledge and respect, they are fully appropriate and even mandatory.

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Last Updated on Tuesday, 18 August 2009 10:59

R. Yehuda taught: “In the future, the Holy One, blessed be He, will bring the yetzer hara and slaughter it before the righteous and the wicked. To the righteous, it appears as a tall mountain. To the wicked, it appears as a hairsbreadth. Each group cries. The righteous cry and say: ‘How were we able to conquer this tall mountain?’ The wicked cry and say: ‘How were we unable to conquer this hairsbreadth?’ And God also wonders with them as it says: ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts: If it be wondrous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in those days, it is also wondrous in my eyes.’” (Sukka 52a)

R. Yehuda’s teaching reverses normal assumptions. We imagine that the wicked exaggerate the power of the evil inclination whereas the righteous restore it to its proper dimension, yet R. Yehuda offers us the opposite perspective. Why do the righteous look back upon something imposing while the wicked see a force they should have easily overcome?

Do the righteous truly encounter a more fearsome inclination or is it just a matter of perspective? Some commentators explain our gemara based on a maxim found on the same Talmudic page: “Whoever is greater than his colleague has a more powerful yetzer.” Taking that maxim literally leads to the conclusion that the righteous really do face stronger temptation. Of course, we need to analyze why this should be so.

Sefat Emet raises an interesting explanation for why the righteous struggle with more potent forces. Worthy individuals succeed in overcoming small temptations and ultimately face larger ones. On the other hand, those that give in immediately to minor challenges never struggle with a harder battle. They concede the fight long before confronting the most trying aspects. A high school student who cheats on every trivial math quiz will not have to think much before cheating on an exam crucial for getting into college.

Conversely, the distinction may all depend upon perspective. R. Avraham Grodzinski, mashgiach at the Slobodka yeshiva, mentions, in the context of explaining this gemara, the inflationary ability of the imagination (Torat Avraham, p. 308). Indeed, we often imagine forbidden pleasures as experiences of paradise when the truth remains far more prosaic. Perhaps this explains the discrepancy. The wicked experience these pleasures and discover the sobering truth that imagination portrays them as greater than reality. The righteous resist these pleasures while still imagining that doing so means giving up magnificent delights.

However, we cannot take this point too far and claim that wise and discerning individuals should effortlessly understand that forbidden pleasures are not worth it. Real challenges exist and they are not always easily overcome. The part of this gemara that describes the two groups crying helps provide the proper balance.

We can understand why the wicked cry but why should the righteous shed tears when reflecting upon their great accomplishments? Rashi explains that they cry when remembering the difficult struggles with the yetzer hara. Maharsha disagrees, claiming that the righteous cry tears of joy. R. Yaakov Ettlinger, Arukh laNer, offers an alternative that relates to our previous discussion. He explains that the righteous cry in an attempt to secure some mercy for the wicked. Their depiction of the difficulties of the inclination serves an argument for some clemency for those who failed the test.

We now have the desired balance. On the one hand, we understand how forbidden fruit looks more alluring that it truly is. At the same time, we do not naively tell people that internalizing that message leads quickly and easily to righteousness. This world includes truly difficult challenges. May we meet them successfully.

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Last Updated on Monday, 10 August 2009 12:26

[R. Yochanan ben Zakkai sneaks out of the besieged Jerusalem to meet with Vespasian.]
When he arrived there, he said: “Peace be upon you king. Peace be upon you king.” He said to him: “You are doubly liable for the death penalty. Firstly, I am not the king and you call me the king. Secondly, if I am the king, why did you not come to me earlier? He said to him: “That you said you are not the king, you will become the king….That you said if I am the king, why did you not come to me earlier, the briyoni (the zealots) did not let me.” He said to him: “If there was a barrel of honey with a snake wrapped around it, would we not break the barrel to get rid of the snake.” He (R. Yochanan) was quiet. R, Yosef, and some say R. Akiva, applied the following verse to him: “that turn wise men backward, and make their knowledge foolish” (Yeshayahu 44:25). He should have said to him: “We take tongs, remove the snake, kill it and leave the barrel.” (Gittin 56a-56b)

Vespasian accuses R. Yochanan of two crimes, including R. Yochanan calling him the emperor when he was just a general. Rashi explains that Vespasian thinks R. Yochanan ridicules him. Maharsha understands that the affront is to the current emperor, not to Vespasian. No one but the true monarch deserves such a title.

He also faults R. Yochanan for not coming earlier. When R. Yochahan responds that he simply could not, Vespasian employs a parable about a snake and a barrel of honey. Apparently, he thinks R. Yochanan could have helped breach the wall, enabling the Romans to finish off the biryonim. The answer to this parable seems eminently obvious. Surely, we would prefer to remove the snake without losing any of the honey. We can well understand R. Yosef, or R. Akiva’s complaint that R. Yochanan did not respond in this manner. Why didn’t he?

The verse from Yishayahu indicates an external force making the wise temporarily foolish. Indeed, Maharsha explains that the sins of that generation caused R. Yochanan’s ignorance. Ben Yehoyada provides an alternative approach. R. Yochanan knew this answer quite well but he thought that winning this argument might prove counterproductive. Emperors and major war generals do not always take well to losing a debate and R. Yochanan’s main purpose was to preserve the Jewish people, not to win arguments. This strategy may have enabled R. Yochanan to secure the sages of Yavneh and the dynasty of the patriarchate from Roman clutches.

The example above discusses strategically deciding to not say every argument we have. In fact, a broader list of social situations exists where we might choose the path of discretion. We may be arguing with someone elderly, we may see that our opponent is becoming too angry, or we may simply have more productive things to be doing. Those who place too much importance on the need to win every argument will ignore all other factors while firing away with the totality of their intellectual arsenal. R. Yochanan reminds us that we need not say every debating point that comes to our mind.

In a subsequent section of the same Talmudic page, Abba Chanan and R. Yishmael marvel at the restraint and silence of Hashem who hears the blasphemies of wicked Titus and remains silent. A human king can not deal with a wicked enemy crowing about some success and will feel the need to achieve vengeance immediately. God has the wisdom and restraint to understand that sometimes, one must wait patiently for the right moment.

In a sense, then, R. Yochanan emulates God. The desire to respond immediately to the evil or incorrect words of others is quite reasonable, even admirable. However, wisdom dictates knowing that everything has its time and place.

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Last Updated on Thursday, 30 July 2009 08:33